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john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was missing a three-hour high-level closed classified briefing on what exactly happened in benghazi from representatives of the state department, national counterterrorism center, fbi, john mccain did not get any of the classified briefing, did not get any of that information or questions answered by any of those people because he skipped the briefing and instead went and yelled at tv cameras about how he couldn't get any information. and when a cnn producer had the good sense to ask senator mccain about why he was yelling about not
john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was...
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and by the way with john mccain, it's been said before, but can't be said too much. i admire john mccain. i have not forgotten the years he spent in a north vietnamese prison camp. when he talks about susan rice and these things, this is a man who picked sarah palin to be possibly one heartbeat away from the presidency of the united states. can't have it both ways, even if you're john mccain. >> dan rather, it's always such a pleasure to have you here. i don't know why you honor us with your presence, but i'm glad you're here sir. >> i'm always glad to be here. thanks a lot. take care. >> thank you. >>> you know the expression, vote with your wallet? this election, some donors got back more on their investment than others. way more. you've heard a lot about the people who wasted their money? what's next is the people who really did not. that's coming up. the common wisdom is that that is completely impossible because of the political power of the national rifle association. the nra doesn't want any gun laws and so we can't have any gun law, they're too powerful, they
and by the way with john mccain, it's been said before, but can't be said too much. i admire john mccain. i have not forgotten the years he spent in a north vietnamese prison camp. when he talks about susan rice and these things, this is a man who picked sarah palin to be possibly one heartbeat away from the presidency of the united states. can't have it both ways, even if you're john mccain. >> dan rather, it's always such a pleasure to have you here. i don't know why you honor us with...
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john mccain still relitigating the last campaign from 2008. so, i think that, you know, jonathan's absolutely right. the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist organization who was taking advantage of a -- you know, of a protest in progress. i've always said that was very plausible. that seems to be, you know, the idea of what's happened here. today when i saw the president during this press conference, i thought he was going to start reciting the line from mop's ante up. he stood tough this afternoon and i think the white house press corps was not prepared for the president obama they saw today. >>
john mccain still relitigating the last campaign from 2008. so, i think that, you know, jonathan's absolutely right. the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we...
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>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when it got really rough. the president took out after republicans namely john mccain and lindsey graham for the criticism leveled at susan rice. the u.n. secretary, shortly after the attacks that resulted in the death of four americans, she went on "meet the press" and other sunday shows and said what happened in benghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest that morphed in to something else and resulted in the dea
>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked...
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. >> sir, if senator john mccain has called for a watergate style investigation into the attack, basically asking for a select committee coming out earlier this week with senators to say they aren't going to get enough information through what we're seeing in the testimony of petraeus and thinks there is an under current here of something else. do you agree that there needs to be a select committee formed? >> oraniginally i didn't becausi think that's our job on the intelligence committee but i heard senator mccain say we have homeland security, we have judiciary, armed services, foreign affairs, and intelligence committees. so for the sake of trying to get everybody on the same page without having constantly to call these witnesses over and over again, and monopolizing really the next year it is maybe a good idea but my focus on this as a former prosecutor has always been why did those americans die and what could we have done to prevent it? . for me it all boils down to the security at the two compounds there was grossly inadequate and it's something that hopefully in the future how do w
. >> sir, if senator john mccain has called for a watergate style investigation into the attack, basically asking for a select committee coming out earlier this week with senators to say they aren't going to get enough information through what we're seeing in the testimony of petraeus and thinks there is an under current here of something else. do you agree that there needs to be a select committee formed? >> oraniginally i didn't becausi think that's our job on the intelligence...
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john mccain did that. it was the greatest act of sheer irresponsibility i have ever seen in a presidential candidate. here is something that john mccain has never once said about sarah palin. >> we're all responsible for what we say and what we do. >> he has never said that. never once said that sarah palin has ever, ever said anything that perhaps she shouldn't have said. he defended every word sarah palin said as his choice to be vice president of the united states, including this -- >> alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, russia, and on our other side the land boundary that we have with canada. it's funny that a comment like that was kind of made to -- i don't know, you know, as putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the united states of america, where do they go? it's alaska. it just right over the border. >> john mccain and his fellow traveler, the little liar lindsay graham, stopped being responsible for what they say and what they do a long, long time ago.
john mccain did that. it was the greatest act of sheer irresponsibility i have ever seen in a presidential candidate. here is something that john mccain has never once said about sarah palin. >> we're all responsible for what we say and what we do. >> he has never said that. never once said that sarah palin has ever, ever said anything that perhaps she shouldn't have said. he defended every word sarah palin said as his choice to be vice president of the united states, including this...
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i'm learning senator john mccain is calling for a select committee on the benghazi attack. >> seek to blame a spontaneous demonstration for the attack in benghazi when it was later acknowledged that no protest even occurred in benghazi and that the station chief in tripoli was reporting back in the first 24 hours that it was a terrorist attack. why did president obama insist that he labeled the events in benghazi as an act of terrorism on september 12th and then emphasized that in his second debate with governor romney and we now know that in an interview with "60 minutes" on the same day, he explicitly refused to characterize the attack this way. and he then spent nearly two weeks putting the emphasis on a spontaneous protest to a hateful video including in his address to the united nations on september 25th. why did our ambassador to the united nations in interviews five days after the attack also try to blame on the hateful video when it was clear from the earliest hours of the attack that it was sophisticated, that it was a sophisticated offensive that no protest ever occurred out
i'm learning senator john mccain is calling for a select committee on the benghazi attack. >> seek to blame a spontaneous demonstration for the attack in benghazi when it was later acknowledged that no protest even occurred in benghazi and that the station chief in tripoli was reporting back in the first 24 hours that it was a terrorist attack. why did president obama insist that he labeled the events in benghazi as an act of terrorism on september 12th and then emphasized that in his...
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. >> john mccain is calling for a broader watergate style panel to investigate. >> for the sake of the families of those four brave americans who sacrificed their lives, they and the american people deserve answers. >> and overnight in australia, secretary panetta and clinton urging the public not to rush to judgment on general allen, who has been nominated to be the supreme allied commander at nato. >> no one should leap to conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job. at isaf. he has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to continue the fight. >> general allen is a distinguished commander who's been an important part of the nato isaf mission in afghanistan. >>> and more on jill kelley, friendly with both generals. she and her twin sister did have a brief stint on reality tv appearing on the food network nearly a decade ago. >> it's nice to exploit their weakness which is their ego. >> plus, nancy pelosi deciding to go for another term as democratic leader. her big announcement didn't go exactly as planned. >> said yesterday we did not have the majority but we ha
. >> john mccain is calling for a broader watergate style panel to investigate. >> for the sake of the families of those four brave americans who sacrificed their lives, they and the american people deserve answers. >> and overnight in australia, secretary panetta and clinton urging the public not to rush to judgment on general allen, who has been nominated to be the supreme allied commander at nato. >> no one should leap to conclusions here. general allen is doing an...
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senator john mccain went off on it this morning. let me play that. >> you think the president misled us? >> i know he did. he didn't tell the truth to the american people at one time or another. >> how widely held a view do you think that is? i was a little bit surprised, frankly, to hear him put it so clearly, major. >> well, republicans do believe that there was an information gap and a flow gap that is irreconcilable with the known facts and what the administration was representing in the five or six days after the 9/11 attack on that sons lat facility in benghazi. now, one thing republicans will probably have to caution against is overdramatizing their sense of outrage and building a fact pattern that represents a genuine inquiry and not partisan accusations. the one thing that the white house has here is that it has the fact pattern and accountability and generally investigations succeed when you build a fact pattern gradually bit by bit and don't accuse things before you have an underlying fact basis for that. my guess is repu
senator john mccain went off on it this morning. let me play that. >> you think the president misled us? >> i know he did. he didn't tell the truth to the american people at one time or another. >> how widely held a view do you think that is? i was a little bit surprised, frankly, to hear him put it so clearly, major. >> well, republicans do believe that there was an information gap and a flow gap that is irreconcilable with the known facts and what the administration...
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why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that hillary clinton wanted to beef up embassy and consulate security? there are some questions that republicans who opposed that need to answer. that's one of the reasons those people lost their lives. >> it's sad. it's sad to see this deterioration. thank you, ron reagan, and thank you, jonathan alter. you guys were incisive tonight. >>> coming up, there are dog whistles and then there are bull horns, and another republican official is blowing his next. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. so you say men are superio
why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk...
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lindsey graham, john mccain and the departing joe lieberman. i don't know of any other voices in the national political scene who are saying we can't leave. we have to do as long as it takes and stay there forever. there's no public support for it. >> because of this scandal, i just -- i mean, one of the things that you hear from veterans groups, that people outside the military i don't think seem all that comfortable talking about is the personal toll of these long deployments over multiple years on people's personal lives. young veterans bemoan the rate of divorce among veterans. how difficult it is to sustain a family and relationships. i don't know why we think it's easier for top commanders than your average infantry man trying to hold his family together. is this potentially -- we tend to defer to the military's own judgment on these things. we ask the commanders on the ground for their own opinion, but is this not another occasion for civilians to say, this is done in our name. the military isn't fighting this war because it wants to, be
lindsey graham, john mccain and the departing joe lieberman. i don't know of any other voices in the national political scene who are saying we can't leave. we have to do as long as it takes and stay there forever. there's no public support for it. >> because of this scandal, i just -- i mean, one of the things that you hear from veterans groups, that people outside the military i don't think seem all that comfortable talking about is the personal toll of these long deployments over...
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. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> welcome back. how to rebrand the gop is the subject of a new serie
. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well,...
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senator john mccain was holding a press conference about the benghazi attack and he was actually missing a closed door briefing related to the attack. well, when asked why he missed that briefing, mccain had no answer and got angry at a question about that. >> well, why can't you -- >> because i have the right as a senator to have no comment. >> in california dr. b achera h been declared winning defeating dan lungren. >>> in florida alan west is still hanging on in his undecided race. >>> ron barber who filled the seat of gabby giffords is waiting for the state to tally more than 100,000 uncounted ballots to see if he returns to the house. >>> a tweet sent yesterday from the white house twitter account is a picture of president obama meeting with the u.s. women's gymnastics team in the oval office. pretty cool. >>> and last night nbc's "parks and recreation" featured vice president joe biden playing himself. we have a look behind the scenes as the vice president compares his job to situation comedy. >> now, i just want you to know i got to make two major speeches, meet a couple thousand
senator john mccain was holding a press conference about the benghazi attack and he was actually missing a closed door briefing related to the attack. well, when asked why he missed that briefing, mccain had no answer and got angry at a question about that. >> well, why can't you -- >> because i have the right as a senator to have no comment. >> in california dr. b achera h been declared winning defeating dan lungren. >>> in florida alan west is still hanging on in...
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mccain. >> newt gingrich. >> these things have been now reclassed as liberal, right. the victories that the president has a chance to get which are historic, like on climate change, on immigration, are now progressive ideas because they've been left behind. >> it's now almost up to the republican party to grab a piece of that pie to say this is our victory too when in reality if they had done it earlier -- >> let's don't get in debate about the mandate. you may be right. i'm often wrong. but with barack obama, it's not a very well kept secret in washington he hasn't courted the congress. he could do worse than read robert karros biography's of lin don johns. he doesn't have to like these people. having them over to the white house, he doesn't have to kiss up to them. he may say i would rather play pool with the devil than deal with the republican leadership, but i can give them grace points, invite the wives to the white house dinners, do things johnson did, say to the congressman pretty far right, you want that dam built in your district, i can get that dam built if
mccain. >> newt gingrich. >> these things have been now reclassed as liberal, right. the victories that the president has a chance to get which are historic, like on climate change, on immigration, are now progressive ideas because they've been left behind. >> it's now almost up to the republican party to grab a piece of that pie to say this is our victory too when in reality if they had done it earlier -- >> let's don't get in debate about the mandate. you may be right....
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including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the benghazi terror attack as a protest gone wrong. president obama and his first post election news conference yesterday fired back in sharp terms. >> let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done xr exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> the republican senators were quick to respond. l
including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the benghazi terror attack as a protest gone wrong. president obama and his first post election news conference yesterday fired back in sharp terms. >> let...
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. >> john mccain and a few other senators as you know have been very vocal saying this administration was either incompetent or involved in a coverup, those words. what you heard today, does it put that question to rest? >> it really does. and no one who's ever come in from the intelligence community has ever suggested anything along those lines. i asked the general in particular about ambassador rice and he was very clear. the unclassified talking points we were given were their best assessment they could give us without compromising classified information. and her comments track that exactly. we were given that late on saturday. she appeared early on sunday. there is simply no there there and i wish my gop colleagues could move on to focus on what we should be focusing on, which is finding those responsible and bringing them to justice. in a year in which it wouldn't have been a presidential election that's what we would be doing and that's what we should be doing now. >> well, about that affair with paula broadwell, and the possibility of classified information being compromised, w
. >> john mccain and a few other senators as you know have been very vocal saying this administration was either incompetent or involved in a coverup, those words. what you heard today, does it put that question to rest? >> it really does. and no one who's ever come in from the intelligence community has ever suggested anything along those lines. i asked the general in particular about ambassador rice and he was very clear. the unclassified talking points we were given were their...
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. >> fewer votes than john mccain, however, which i don't think anyone would have necessarily pretty quicked. are we going to learn something about the republican party when we see how the discussions for the fiscal cliff go? >> you're going to see if the republican party is going to give in terms of tax rates and what are they willing to compromise on in order to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff. if they hold steadfast to their position and basically say, it's our way or the highway, they are going to basically feed into this alienation of these key demographic groups. this is what i think every party goes through in terms of when you lose, especially in a race that you thought you had a chance to win. again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, yo
. >> fewer votes than john mccain, however, which i don't think anyone would have necessarily pretty quicked. are we going to learn something about the republican party when we see how the discussions for the fiscal cliff go? >> you're going to see if the republican party is going to give in terms of tax rates and what are they willing to compromise on in order to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff. if they hold steadfast to their position and basically say, it's our way or...
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mccain staffers could largely see the writing on the wall. most of the people from the mid-level folks on down especially looked up at the top echelon, looked at mitt romney who was projecting complete confidence, he and i sat as close as you and i are on the last day and he said we will win this thing and the people believed it. to have the bottom fall out by 10:00 or 11:00 at night we saw a lot of devastated people. >> how much longer does romney get secret service? like the things that go along with the presidential campaign, how soon does that wither away? >> the secret service is all but done at this point. he still had the agents overnight. some of the agents still around in boston the next day. their basic prerogative is to make sure protesters aren't going to overrun his house and the baseline level of security is there. and with the romney family, largely spread out across the country, no young kids in boston their work is all but done at this point. back to a private citizen by today. >> what's the headline for you having been a fly
mccain staffers could largely see the writing on the wall. most of the people from the mid-level folks on down especially looked up at the top echelon, looked at mitt romney who was projecting complete confidence, he and i sat as close as you and i are on the last day and he said we will win this thing and the people believed it. to have the bottom fall out by 10:00 or 11:00 at night we saw a lot of devastated people. >> how much longer does romney get secret service? like the things that...
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mccain and it looks like he'll be 2 million viewer, i would have been du dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that somehow the country would categorically reject the president because we had, that the country would somehow say to itself, you know, we can't live with this new land of big government health care, big government spending, et cetera, because we can't. and that's fine. the problem was in articulating to the american people why we can't live with those things, why those things are bad, and instead, as you have noted many times on this program, we got w waylaid by conversations about women's bodies and abortion and things that didn't go to the nub of what was moving the electorate, and i think right now newt is absol
mccain and it looks like he'll be 2 million viewer, i would have been du dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that...
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meanwhile, republican senators from the armed services committee including john mccain and lindsey graham are now calling for a, quote, watergate-style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response to it. they also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state, describing her as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the terror attack as a protest gone wrong. she went on the sunday shows including "meet the press" a couple days after the attack and said that. president obama in his news conference yesterday fired back at senators mccain and graham. >> let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply
meanwhile, republican senators from the armed services committee including john mccain and lindsey graham are now calling for a, quote, watergate-style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response to it. they also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state, describing her as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the terror attack as a protest gone wrong. she went on the sunday shows including...
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john mccain almost lost the republican primary season in 2008 because he was in favor of comprehensive immigration reform. he had to double back. they're going to have to get out of that. they're going to have to be able to say there is a different path forward, not just to citizenship, but to dealing with immigration as an issue, which is complicated, understandably. but start with more actually free market type of solutions and say, hey, look, why are we micromanaging the number of immigrants from each and every country? why don't we expand the number of visas? start with that, certainly. start shutting down people who use immigration as a very passionate and very irrational issue from which to sort of project all of their fears. >> we are already starting to see and hear some of that from folks on the right. let's switch gears and talk about this year's electorates. according to exit polls, there's been a steady decline of white voters. in 2008, they made out 80%. in 2004, you see it go down. in 2012, we're looking at about 72%. here's today's salon article. america, love it or leav
john mccain almost lost the republican primary season in 2008 because he was in favor of comprehensive immigration reform. he had to double back. they're going to have to get out of that. they're going to have to be able to say there is a different path forward, not just to citizenship, but to dealing with immigration as an issue, which is complicated, understandably. but start with more actually free market type of solutions and say, hey, look, why are we micromanaging the number of immigrants...
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john mccain, lindsey graham going after her for repeating what the president says was the intel that was available at the time. you're on the committee. can you tell us, was susan rice, from what you know, just repeating what was being told to everybody in washington at the time on what had happened in benghazi? >> well, here's what i think, joe. i think without question, i mean, you know, you've got guys storming a consulate with ak-47s, with rpgs and firing mortars. they knew immediately this was a terrorist attack. there wasn't any question about that. and why the white house didn't come out and say that immediately, i don't know. they tried to soften it somewhat with regard to it was a spontaneous action that stemmed from a protest. there was a question about whether protesters were there. and five days later, susan rice goes on tv and says that not only was it a protest, but it apparently stemmed from this trailer or this movie that had been shown. and very honestly by that point in time, we were beyond that. so i do think that there were some politics involved in the message th
john mccain, lindsey graham going after her for repeating what the president says was the intel that was available at the time. you're on the committee. can you tell us, was susan rice, from what you know, just repeating what was being told to everybody in washington at the time on what had happened in benghazi? >> well, here's what i think, joe. i think without question, i mean, you know, you've got guys storming a consulate with ak-47s, with rpgs and firing mortars. they knew...